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Archive for November, 2008

Question #99: (for Gastineau) Can Jets win?

November
13

Sam, I know you and I had this conversation shortly after Tom Brady’s season ended.

Now, I’m ready to give you that the Jets have improved a lot since then, a lot since Matt Cassel beat them. That their offensive line has finally seemed comfortable together, that Brett Favre finally seems to be figuring out Mangenius’s system, that their running backs have had a terrific little stretch here.

But I still say, minus Brady, the Patriots have better players up and down the roster. And if Cassel doesn’t have a complete disaster tonight, the Patriots will beat the Jets again, especially up there, and potentially in nasty weather. Plus, the Pats cheat better.

So I’m taking New England and laying the 3 1/2 … not only that, but I’m really confident about it. But I must point out that I have pretty much been wrong on the Jets every single week except for that last game against the Patriots.

We’ll do the rest of our NFL picks tomorrow.

8 p.m., Thursday, Sam says:
Sam Borden

Nothing like cutting it close, right? Today was a bit of a whirlwind as I ran around doing an interview for a column you’ll all read next week, then got home just in time to cook some dinner for my lovely wife (spaghetti squash, turkey meatballs and steamed broccoli, if you’re interested). With kickoff in about 15 minutes, I can still get my pick in under the wire. So …

I’ll take the Jets.

Carp, I’m not sure I necessarily agree with the notion that the Patriots have better players up and down the roster, and even if they do it’s pretty close at a number of positions. Also, my feeling on most games that are essentially a pick ‘em (which, at 3 1/2 points to the home team, this game is) has always been to go with the better quarterback. As well as Cassel has managed games this year, Favre is still better. Put another way, if the best Favre shows up tonight, it won’t matter if the best Cassel shows up. The Jets will still win.

So look for some solid running from TJ and Leon Washington, look for a few deep balls from Favre and look for a Jets win – say, 23-20 – that puts them in first place come morning.

Back tomorrow for the rest of the picks …

Posted by Carp on Thursday, November 13th, 2008 at 11:55 am | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #98: Did Santana get ripped off?

November
12

Here is what Tim Lincecum said after learning that he was this year’s NL Cy Young winner by a landslide (he got 23 of 32 first-place votes): “I was definitely surprised. I thought it was going to be a lot closer.”

So did a lot of Mets fans. Johan Santana ended up finishing third in the voting, and there was a large segment of the baseball-watching population (particularly in New York) that expected the Mets ace to win. That he didn’t – and by such a large margin – seems egregious to them.

But not to me.

Back when I was covering the Yankees, I had the pleasure of voting for the AL Cy Young and was one of the 28 people to give Santana my first place vote in 2006. He won unanimously.

Santana was dominant that year, by far the best pitcher in the league. This year, as good as he was, Lincecum was better. The only two categories in which Santana ranked first were innings and ERA; Lincecum was first in strikeouts and opponents batting average, two categories that are critical in reflecting a particular pitcher’s dominance. He was also second in ERA and tied for second in innings pitched.

It’s also worth noting that Lincecum was 18-5 on a team that lost 90 games. In other words, he pitched in nearly a third of his team’s victories. Since baseball is ultimately a team sport, that counts for something.

Santana had a terrific year and, if the Mets had a decent bullpen, might have won more than 20 games. It would have been hard to ignore that kind of a number. But it didn’t happen. Lincecum was stronger in the areas that matter most in this race, and that’s why no Mets fan should feel aggrieved over Santana’s loss. He was excellent this year. Lincecum was just better.
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Since the Jets are in Foxboro tomorrow night to face the Patriots, we’ll need to put in a pick for the game early. We’ll pick that game in tomorrow’s question post, then be back with the full slate of picks for the weekend on Friday.

 

CARP SAYS:

I agree that Lincecum deserved the Cy Young, but I disagree that he was much better than Santana. The landslide is just a product of the voting system … most everybody felt Lincecum was better than Santana, and that tally of votes made it appear one-sided. There were 32 ballots cast, and three pitchers on each ballot. A first-place vote was worth five points, second three, and third one. In other words, I’m sure most voters had Lincecum first (he had 23 first-place votes), Santana second or third.

But Santana did get ripped off … by the Mets bullpen. The same bullpen that denied Santana and the Mets postseason games. If he’d had Mariano Rivera at the back end of his games, Santana would have won 20, the Mets would have won the East and we’d be asking today if Lincecum had been ripped off.

And I’ll tell you who did get ripped off: Brad Lidge, who got 10 votes total. I don’t know when baseball writers are going to get it through their heads that closers are the most valuable commodity in the sport and that a guy who has a perfect or near-perfect year (Lidge was perfect) can and should win the Cy Young. It remains one of the great injustices of all time that Rivera never won the Cy Young (but Sparky Lyle did).

Posted by Sam Borden on Wednesday, November 12th, 2008 at 10:40 am | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #97: Wait and see?

November
11

I don’t remember a time when we had so many wait-and-see questions hanging over the New York sports scene as right now.

The Jets have won two impressive games in a row and four of five overall. Granted, in that streak is a putrid loss to Oakland and a putrid win over Kansas City and Herm Edwards. So we’re waiting on the next two weeks, the Patriots Thursday, Tennessee 10 days later before we make any decisions on their legitimacy.

The Knicks? Winners of three in a row!! Are you kidding me? Well, the schedule is softer than Charmin so far. Now they hit the road, and no matter what happens there it’s way, way too early to make a call on how much progress they’ve made. But it seems they are headed in the right direction. Just don’t expect much this year (or next).

The Rangers? Their record is great, but they’ve hit a bumpy patch here. We still wonder if they will score enough goals, and how Tom Renney is really going to get his top guys producing by finding linemates for Chris Drury, especially, and Scott Gomez. We expect they’ll be in the top half of the league, but given the changes they’ve made we don’t know how far up that ladder.

The Yankees and Mets? We’re waiting to see how crazy (in the Yankees’ case) the spending spree gets, and how wisely they fill holes. This should be one of the all-time hot stove seasons before they both move into their shiny new palaces (with the IRS perhaps barking at their heels).

The Giants are Super Bowl champs and perhaps the class of the league (especially since Tom Brady went down on opening day) but here is the question I posed during the preseason and the early going: If they go 13-3 or 14-2 and lose in the NFC title game, or earlier, is that a successful season? What if they lose the Super Bowl? I think anything less than another SB ring and a dance with Vince Lombardi will be a bummer for Team PSL.

9:30 a.m., Wednesday, Sam says:
Sam Borden

Carp, I think you’ve nicely summed up the beauty of sports: The exhilaration and excitement of success exists mostly because of the drama of what comes before it. Those fans who make it through the waiting and questioning and wondering over just how good (or bad) their team really is are rewarded with the ultimate relief and exuberance when their hopes are finally realized.

Wait and see? Absolutely. There’s nothing better for a sports fan to do.

Posted by Carp on Tuesday, November 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #96: Who’s got the better rusher(s)?

November
10

So I’m back. Back in America, back on Eastern Standard Time, back on Faceoff. Always nice to be home. If you just want to skip to the Question of the Day, scroll down. If you’ve got a few minutes to kill, keep reading …

My wife and I spent the past week in Scotland and Amsterdam, visiting my sister (who is studying abroad in the UK) and then visiting the Excess and Indiscretion Capital of the World. When you consider that the flights are hardly overwhelming – it took less than six hours to fly to Scotland on an overnight flight and just under eight to get back from Amsterdam – I’m not sure why people think going to Europe is all that much bigger a travel ordeal than going to the West Coast. A flight to Portland a few months ago took longer than the flight to Glasgow.

Anyway, a few quick observations before we get back to the sports …


  • America is, in many ways, the world’s country. Watching the election coverage from the UK it was fascinating to see the international reaction to Barack Obama’s victory. The BBC, French television and CNN International were our outlets of choice and we saw constant images of victory rallies and parties in Paris, London and other foreign cities. There were literally celebrations of Obama all over the world. In the days after, any waiter or concierge or hostess we met that learned we were American inevitably made a comment about the election – “A big day for you today” or “Congratulations” or even just “What a week it must be over there.” It was energizing.

  • Soccer rules Europe. As a devoted English soccer follower, I was happy to immerse my self in the culture for a week. The buzz in Glasgow for Celtic-Manchester United was fantastic and the papers in the UK are hilarious. Since Manchester United was a huge favorite, one Scottish paper ran a headline that said, “NIGHT OF THE UNDERDOG” that had a huge accompanying picture of a rabid dog gnashing its teeth through the words. It was fantastic. There are also betting parlors all over the place. I made a small wager on a Scottish league game and won enough to buy my wife and sister afternoon tea the next day.

  • Amsterdam is worth visiting. It just is. It’s like Vegas in a way, in that even if you’re not going to partake of the many sinful offerings available, it’s still entertaining just to be in the circus itself for a little while. The Red Light District is, to borrow a phrase I heard from my sister, sort of like what a vending machine of women would look like. Along with legalized (and regulated) prostitution, the presence of countless marijuana “coffeeshops” gives the entire city a devil-may-care attitude.


Put it this way: I happened to look out my hotel window once at 10 a.m. and I counted (maybe) 15 people on the streets below; at 3 a.m. there were hundreds. It’s just that kind of city.

Also, the canals are gorgeous and the Anne Frank House is incredibly powerful.

Annnnnnnnnyway ….

Back to the sports. I obviously missed the Giants beat the Cowboys last week, but did catch most of the locals’ games yesterday. Two impressive wins and a big part of both was the running games. Thus, it begs the question: Who’s got the better rushers right now – Jets or Giants?

As important as Brett Favre has been to the Jets, many – including me – have said that Thomas Jones and Leon Washington will probably end up being more important to the team’s success. I’m just not that big a believer in Favre’s old-style gunslinging being good enough to take the Jets deep. They nearly lost to the Chiefs a few weeks ago in part because they refused to lean on their running game against a woefully inferior run-stopping team, and Favre’s decision-making quickly became an issue.

Yesterday the running game was there. Jones went 26 times for 149 yards and three rushing TDs. It was everything the Jets could have ever wanted from him.

Is it better than the Giants’ trio of Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw? I’m not ready to say that yet. You just can’t, not when the defending Super Bowl champs are running through wins like they’ve been doing. It’s closer than you think though.

It’s also worth noting that while Jones and Washington may not be better just yet, they may be more important to their team’s success than Jacobs, et. al. Without a strong Jones/Washington, the Jets have no chance; without a solid running game, the Giants still might have enough weapons to make an impact.

CARP SAYS:

Welcome back, Sam. I missed you and your opinions. Sounds like you had a great time, and saw some, well, interesting stuff.

You didn’t miss much with Giants-’Boys. And I’m going to tell you that beating the Eagles and scoring that many points in doing so, despite all the turnovers—and early points off those turnovers—I think is as impressive for the G-Men as winning a clean game. I mean, two weeks running against the supposedly next two best teams in the best division in football, the Giants coughed up the ball repeatedly and won!

That tells me that these Giants are as good as ever, maybe better. If they can clean it up, they might be almost unstoppable.

As for the running backs, I’m sticking with Earth, Wind and Fire over Jones and Washington, at least until Jones and Washington have some big days against decent defenses. My gosh, the Rams were and are pathetic. Let’s see them run the ball in Foxborough Thursday. Then I’ll be impressed.

I know that’s a simplistic view, but that’s how I see it. The three-headed Giants backfield has faced real tough sledding and has thrived (although Jacobs has to figure out how to hold the ball). I think the interesting part of the way both backfields have suddenly gotten noticed is that the Jets’ much-ballyhooed and expensive offensive line is now in synch, which might put it on par with the Gaints’ offensive line … arguably the best in the biz.

But I’m holding all opinions on the Jets, including that of Favre and Jones and the line and Mangini and everybody else involved, until they beat the Pats up there.

Posted by Sam Borden on Monday, November 10th, 2008 at 11:18 am | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #95: Who do you like?

November
7

In a week in which “hope” was a big theme, I have found hope.

Sam is away on vacation, and if he forgets to post his picks here, I can stick him with an 0-13 week (and try to get away with it). That would pretty much give me hope of taking over the lead, since my remarkably consistent mediocrity has not allowed me do to so.

I went 7-7 last week, Sam went 9-5 and stretched his lead to six games. An O-fer would go a long way toward helping my cause (of course, I would have to avoid a disastrous week myself, and that is no slam dunk). Alas, I fear he will chime in.

I did come up with a new system for picking. The old one wasn’t working. I’ll explain its complex vagaries if it works this week.

I like the Giants in Philly and the Jets home against the Rams … although without the new system I probably would have picked the Eagles (the G-men are due for a close one, if not a lose) and the Rams (I see the Jets morphing back into the same-old Jets). But I’m sticking with the system.

Not that it inspires confidence. According to the new system, I had to go with the Lions and the Seahawks and the Chiefs. Ugh.

Sam 68-58-3 —
Carp 62-64-3 6 GB

Week 10

Giants (+3) over EAGLES
JETS (-9) over Rams
LIONS (+6 1/2) over Jaguars
BEARS (+3) over Titans
PATRIOTS (-3 1/2) over Bills
Saints (+1) over FALCONS
Seahawks (+8 1/2) over DOLPHINS
Packers (+2 1/2) over VIKINGS
Panthers (-9 1/2) over RAIDERS
Chiefs (+15) over CHARGERS
STEELERS (-3) over Colts
Ravens (pick) over TEXANS
CARDINALS (-11) over 49ers

9:30 p.m., Saturday, Sam says:
Sam Borden

Sorry Carp, I’m back—- albeit incredibly exhausted since I just got home, I’ve been up for 20 hours and it feels like it’s 3 in the morning to me right now. Gotta love a quick trip to Europe.

Anyway, I’m interested to see how your new “system” works. Since my eyes are half-shut, I’m just going with first instinct on my picks this time around …

Giants (+3) over EAGLES
Rams (+9) over JETS
Jaguars (-6 1/2) over LIONS
BEARS (+3) over Titans
PATRIOTS (-3 1/2) over Bills
FALCONS (-1) over Saints
Seahawks (+8 1/2) over DOLPHINS
VIKINGS (-2 1/2) over Packers
Panthers (-9 1/2) over RAIDERS
CHARGERS (-15) over Chiefs
STEELERS (-3) over Colts
Ravens (pick) over TEXANS
CARDINALS (-11) over 49ers

Posted by Carp on Friday, November 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #94: Do you want Cameron?

November
6

The hot rumor is that the Yankees are going to chase Mike Cameron to play center field, and trade Melky Cabrera and others in order to get him from the Brewers.

Cameron is a superior center fielder—certainly superior than anything the Yankees have—and one of the truly good guys in baseball.

But Cameron hit .250 in 2008, and alth0ugh he knocked in 70 runs and hit 25 homers, he whiffed 142 times and had a .331 on-base percentage. Those last two numbers don’t really fit in the Yankees’ philosophy of working counts and getting into opposing bullpens.

On the other hand, Melky, who’s a decent center fielder with a good arm, hit .249 with eight homers and 37 RBI. His on-base percentage was even more pathetic at .301 and he struck out 58 times in 129 games, before being shipped to the minors and pretty much scape-goated (with Robinson Cano) for the Yankees’ failures.

Yes, the Yankees need an upgrade in center. I just think they could set their sights higher than Cameron. If they end up with him, so be it.

Posted by Carp on Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 1:01 pm | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #93: Are the Devils done?

November
5

Does a bear sleep in the woods?

In case you missed it with all the election-day excitement and all the sports focus on the two football teams, the baseball free agents and the Knicks’ soap opera … Devils goalie Martin Brodeur, on the verge of setting the NHL’s records for career shutouts and victories, is gone for probably four months.

He completely tore a bicep muscle and needs surgery (the always honest and forthcoming Devils called it a bruised elbow—no wonder they have a problem getting their fans’ trust).

The thing you have to remember is that not only is Brodeur a Hall of Famer, not only is he a three-time Stanley Cup champ and in any argument over the greatest goalies ever; that not only did the Devils survive all those departures—Scott Stevens, Scott Niedermayer, Ken Daneyko, Claude Lemieux, Stephane Richer, Bobby Holik—over the years and continue winning because of the man behind their system, Brodeur.

No, not only that, but Brodeur played just about every game every year since 1994.

Kevin Weekes is a very capable NHL goalie, who has had brilliant stretches in his career. But he’s been a backup for a long time now, and it’s going to be awfully hard for him to play at the top of his game for four months or more.

I think the Devils are in deep trouble here, and I know that’s not deep thinking because a lot of people think that way.

And what does Lou Lamoriello, the best GM in the metro area, do now? Can he go out and get a temporary No. 1 goalie?

What do you think?

Posted by Carp on Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 at 10:58 am | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #92: Jets-Giants in Tampa?

November
4

Are you buying any of this sudden hysteria that it will be an all-New York (or all-New Jersey) Super Bowl in Tampa?

I’m not. I’m not even leaning toward considering the Jets a playoff team at this point. They have a lot more work to do to prove that to me … like beating New England, which without Tom Brady, still is better than the Jets.

I so clearly remember 1986 when the Jets were 10-1 and the Giants 9-2. This hysteria arose then, but it was legit, until the Jets failed to hold up their end of the bargain. Since then we’ve gotten this idea of a Jets-Giants Supe in more than a few preseasons, whenever it appeared they might—emphasis on might—both be good.

The Jets just beat the Bills, a solid team, in Buffalo. OK, great. Super Bowl? Easy does it there, fellas. Let’s see them win a few games, win the AFC East, get a bye and a home game. Then we’ll even dream about discussing Tampa. OK?

Posted by Carp on Tuesday, November 4th, 2008 at 11:30 am | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #91: Would you prefer the ‘Boys at full strength?

November
3

I’m not asking you if you felt sorry for Dallas yesterday. It’s a given that nobody did, certainly not the Giants, certainly not their fans, and not me either.

I’m just asking, wouldn’t you be more satisfied today if the ‘Boys had everybody, or almost everybody, or at least Tony Romo, on the field?

Because Justin Tuck—who is quickly becoming one of the best players in the entire NFL on either side of the ball—kind of wished Romo had been there, and hopes Romo is there the next time they meet (Dec. 14 in Irving).

“It didn’t matter who they put out there,” Tuck said. “In ways, we wish Romo had been ou there because, as a competitor—and I know th eguys on this football team—we want to play teams at their best. I think that’s what helped us last year on our run. We got Dallas at their best. We got teams like that to really judge ourselves and see where we were at, and once we got on the playoff run, after playing in this NFC East and how difficult it is, we were able to really get everything down as far as how to win football games that were going to be close, tough games. I think that really helped us. So I’m looking forward to playing them again.” 

I wrote a column for The Journal News and LoHud.com today talking about part of what makes the Giants potentially great again is the way they get after it, no matter who’s on the field, or who’s at QB. You can read that here. 

What do you think?

Posted by Carp on Monday, November 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Question #90: Are you coming to Cowboys-Giants?

November
2

If so, expect more traffic than usual. First of all, I imagine it’s not good over on the Manhattan side of the bridges and tunnels, not with the New York Marathon going on—usually one of the worst traffic days in NYC.

Second, because it’s the Cowboys there are a lot of people, it seems than usual with the “I need tix” signs.

Third, the 4:15 start always makes for earlier tailgating, especially on a nice day, so the lots are already filling up and the lines—which inexplicably still go from single lane to four lanes back to single lane, making traffic a nightmare for every game at Giants Stadium—are long already.

I’m a little disappointed that this game isn’t living up to the billing. I mean, this was red-circled when the schedule came out, and now with Dallas banged up, this could be a blowout. I suspect, though, that Dallas will put up a fight, and the final score will be determined by how many times the Giants put Brad Johnson, and whomever else gets the snaps, on his back.

Posted by Carp on Sunday, November 2nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm | del.icio.us Digg Furl Reddit Help
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Sam BordenSam Borden grew up in Larchmont, graduated from Mamaroneck High School and has spent all 29 years of his life following the local sports scene. The drama of sports has always fascinated him, and his columns are designed to take a side or tell a story. The best days are the ones where he gets to do both.
Rick CarpinielloRick Carpiniello grew up in lower Westchester and began working in The Journal News' sports department (back when it was The Reporter Dispatch and eight other newspapers) in October of 1977 after a year of covering high school sports as a stringer. For more than 20 years he covered the New York Rangers and the National Hockey League. Carpiniello has been writing columns on everything from local sports to the big leagues since 2002.
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