Sam, I feel as if we’ve had this discussion before, and that we disagreed. Is Mike Mussina a Hall of Famer?
I might change my mind in the five years between Mussina’s retirement announcement and when I receive the official ballot with his name on it. I didn’t think Mussina was a Hall of Famer before he won 20 games for the first time this year, and at the moment I’m leaning toward sticking with that.
The reason is simple. I think there needs to be a line drawn between being a baseball immortal and being really, really good. Mussina was really, really good for a long, long time. I don’t think he was ever the best pitcher in his league or in baseball (he never won the Cy Young). I don’t think the fact that he never won a championship should go against him, but if he’d won one or two, that would certainly add luster to his resume.
I just think we’ve let too many really, really good players into Cooperstown already. Paul Molitor always comes to mind. People are talking about Craig Biggio now. These guys were never, ever, better than players like Jim Rice and Don Mattingly, who remain out. Or even Gary Sheffield, who even with his admission of, ahem, flaxseed oil use, is more deserving.
Likewise, Mussina is in the Bert Blyleven category. Don Sutton got in with a similar resume to Mussina’s, and I don’t think he should be in, either. I think Jack Morris, still on the sidelines, was better than all three of those guys, but didn’t compile the longevity numbers.
Fortunately, I don’t have to make that decision on Mussina today.
(WHO DO YOU LIKE?, Thursday edition: STEELERS (-11) over Bengals).
11:30 a.m., Thursday, Sam says:

In fact, we have had this discussion back in the middle of the baseball season. It was Question #5. And weren’t those the days?
Anyway, we sort of disagreed then and we sort of disagree now. I think Mussina is the very definition of a borderline HOFer. He was an excellent pitcher. That is indisputable. And he did it for a very long time in an era when players’ careers are getting ever-shorter. That is certainly in his favor.
I am still a few years away from voting for the HOF, so I can’t say for sure how I’ll approach the process, but I’d like to think that I’ll be VERY discriminating. I believe the HOF is for no-doubters and Mussina isn’t necessarily in that category. That said, I do think he’s worthy (if that makes any sense at all), so I wouldn’t be outraged if he did make it. Everyone has a different standard for what it takes to make the HOF, and Mussina is right on the outside of mine; it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he was right on the inside of many others’.
Former Yankees bullpen catcher Mike Borzello is one of Mussina’s closest friends and he used to call Mussina “Mr. Almost” – almost threw a perfect game, almost won a championship and – until this past season – almost won 20. Now that he seems to be retired, it’s interesting to see if Mussina is almost a HOFer or if he actually gets all the way there.
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I’m hoping that the Steelers are a little tired coming off a short week. I’ll take the Bengals and the 11 points.