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Question #66: Who stays, who goes?

September
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It happened last year, too. This idiotic, knee-jerk, question posed to angry and frustrated fans and talk-radio hosts. Dump him or keep him? Even some newspapers are now involved. Not just with the Mets, either, but with every team that fails to whatever degree.

One smart Mets fan I spoke to on Monday was in the typical mode: “Dump them all; clean house; start new, the core needs to be changed.”

The problem with all those ideas is this: You can’t just dump people without getting replacements who are, at the very least, as good. Actually, you don’t “dump” a player unless you’re getting somebody you think is better.

So, those of you who don’t want David Wright or Jose Reyes anymore … there are probably 30 teams who will be happy to take them off your hands. Carlos Delgado is old, but if you buy him out, somebody else will surely sign him for a lot of money and you’ll be stuck trying to find a first baseman who’s going to hit 30 homers and drive in 100.

And if you just want Carlos Beltran out of your sight, I’m sure the Yankees would give you every outfielder in their system, plus a few prospects and cash for him.

Blame those core guys all you want, but the fact is that the Mets’ lineup has five holes in it including the pitcher There are the four stars and pretty much zippo. There is no reasonable production from left field, right field, second base and catcher. They got by when Damion Easley and Fernando Tatis stepped up surprisingly and had solid seasons. But when those two afterthought guys, bench guys, got hurt, there was nobody left. You CANNOT win with four guys in your order hitting, and they can’t hit every day, and it becomes impossible for them to hit when the opposition knows there are so many outs around them, and when the pressure is on them when they come around to bad every two or three innings.

Besides that, we all know injuries are no excuse, but if they’d had Billy Wagner or John Maine the last month, don’t you think they’d have won two more games and they’d be in decent shape heading into a series with the Cubs? You bet they would be.

Of course, that’s not holler-and-scream rationalization. Not when “Dump ‘em all” is preached by so many and keeps so many radio/TV guys employed, not when fans want their anger to decide the future of a franchise, want people held accountable, want heads to roll. So, if you want to get rid of Beltran, call Brian Cashman.

This entry was posted on Tuesday, September 30th, 2008 at 12:54 pm by Carp. |

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3 Responses to “Question #66: Who stays, who goes?”

  1. sunny615

    I hate internet explorer… my whole shpeel – just gone!! So pissed… so here’s the compressed version:

    Gone so long because just had baby girl. Yay!

    Mets fans – chill out. If you want to dump Wright, Reyes and Beltran, as a Yankee fan, I would be thrilled to take them off your hands! Wright can take over 1st. Reyes in the OF until Jeter retires, and Beltran would be most welcome in Center or Right. Pass ‘em on over PLEASE!

    And stop whining… Try losing half your team (Posada, Matsui, Arod (for a month), Jeter (playing all season with a broken left hand), and insert winners like Moeller, Molina, Gardner, Christian, Betemit, and Ransom in their slots… talk about less than half a lineup. And as for injuries – replace a third of your starts with All-Starlets like Carl (American Idle) Pavano, Sidney (the GM beater) Ponson, Darrell (Mr. DFA) Rasner, Dan (who?) Giese, Alfredo (who who??) Aceves, and other such ilk. Try having a first baseman like Giambi who has a lower BA with RISP than George Bush’s approval rating. He can’t field worth a crap, throws like a monkey and he’s about as fast as a one legged caterpillar. Trying having a CF and 2nd basement that both regressed into toddlerhood.

    So stop yer whining and go see a therapist. Like the Yanks, they just couldn’t put it together (altho I will admit the Mets’ failure was a bit more dramatic than the Yanks’ in the lesser NL). You don’t need an overhaul… you need 1- a new GM that’s smarter than your average bear and 2- some minor upgrades at certain positions. At least you guys just missed the past 2 years, the Yanks just broke a 13 year streak. Get over it people.

  2. Rick Carpiniello

    Sunny, Congrats on the baby girl!!!!!
    We missed you here. I love your side comments, but one I need explained is “Mr. DFA” ... unless it’s unprintable.

  3. sunny615

    Thanks Carp! After our two boys, can’t wait to see what a girl is like!

    Mr. DFA has two meanings of course – the obvious “Please DFA the guy” and the second which is unprintable.

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Sam BordenSam Borden grew up in Larchmont, graduated from Mamaroneck High School and has spent all 29 years of his life following the local sports scene. The drama of sports has always fascinated him, and his columns are designed to take a side or tell a story. The best days are the ones where he gets to do both.
Rick CarpinielloRick Carpiniello grew up in lower Westchester and began working in The Journal News' sports department (back when it was The Reporter Dispatch and eight other newspapers) in October of 1977 after a year of covering high school sports as a stringer. For more than 20 years he covered the New York Rangers and the National Hockey League. Carpiniello has been writing columns on everything from local sports to the big leagues since 2002.
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